TWILT Ep. 16 – Mr.Bill


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Our guest this week is Bill Deys, on twitter and at

We started by talking about what’s been happening with one of his main projects which is an online podcast subscription tool. We then talked about work with UnLondon & the Unlab

Electro-Motive Lockout.

We then moved on to the lockout of workers at Electro-Motive in London, the company presented the latest offer that would slash their wages by more then half.  All agreed that the company probably wants to move the plant to the US and wants to try and blame the union.  Glen Pearson had an excellent blog on the issue.

Sean and Bill also got into a debate about the middle class and how Bill’s family bussiness pays their staff well but have issues with  finding people that are willing to be on time and are willing to work. In the end we all agreed the problem is complex and their are exceptions in every company/union etc.

Did CTV TV anchor get a free pass, only CFPL reported, LFP ‘took a pass’

Phil Mcleod wrote a blog about CTV London anchor Dan MacLellan, who was arrested and charged with four counts of assault Christmas Eve.  Only CFPL broke the story 4 days later, CTV London read a very brief statment after Dan had missed two days of broadcasts. The London Free Press did not report on the story at all. We were all in agreement their seems to be a double standard.

Occupy impact long-lasting

The tents and signs are gone, but the impact of the Occupy London encampment will continue for months, maybe years.


A very good Op-ed by Michael Igantieff in The Globe and Mail.




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3 Responses to TWILT Ep. 16 – Mr.Bill

  1. Todd Dailey January 3, 2012 at 12:39 pm #

    Enjoyed the podcast. Bill Deys had the right answers in the debate. Sean’s basis of a declining middle class is a tale of people ruining themselves. Relentlessly increasing wages leads to reduced purchasing power, not more. Higher wages for all means higher costs of producing and delivering goods to all (inflation), cutting the short-term benefit of the increased income. Stack that with a regressive income tax system that takes increasingly more from worker’s pockets as they cross tax brackets and sales taxes that take their cut on the rising prices of goods and it’s a circle-the-drain scenario.

    The solution, as Bill argued, is to end the expectation of entitlement that everyone automatically gets more today than they did yesterday. Reduce the employment-hindering minimum wage. End contracted, automatic raises. Reduce inflation, encourage saving and increase respect for the dollar so that business fight harder to win customer’s purchases.

    • chayce January 3, 2012 at 2:32 pm #

      Convincing some that workers should be paid less while corporations are making record profits – on the backs of their labour – is the most impressive distortion of reality I can imagine. Kudos to them for being so clever as to garner support from the very people they’re screwing, or soon will be. If this is you, your turn is coming, as impossible as that may seem to you at the moment.

      It’s also a grand fallacy to believe workers are the problem by forcing prices up. That argument holds no water at all when the corps are doing so exceedingly well. *They will always charge what the market will support and not a penny less*. That’s how it works. And buyers are buying at current prices. To assume they’ll suddenly charge less than they’re capable of, because workers submit to slave wages is utterly foolhardy. Keep an eye on EMD prices when they cut their payroll in half.

      I can’t imagine how anyone can look at the continuing trend of the rich getting richer and the poor (and soon to be poor) getting poorer, and actually believe it’s sustainable.

      Blaming the cow for getting thinner on less nourishment isn’t all that valid of a position. Anyone who thinks that way needs to read the blog of someone far more knowledgeable and articulate than I –

      If you can still hold your stance in the face of the blatant facts, well, that would be unfortunate, because we don’t need our own to be against us.

      Please wake up.

  2. Dan O'Neail January 3, 2012 at 3:54 pm #

    Where has he been? The expectation o getting more tomorrow then yesterday? Most o us have less purchasing power then ever. I have not seems raise in 4 years and took a $5 pay cut 2years ago.
    The expectation of entitlement only exists at the level of the rich. Patting each other on the back for cutting labour costs again.